[15:42:43] Antonio Sergi: i'll never forget the day when i got booted from the internal source dev mailing list, because i ask some questions, but because I was offsite, they got panties in a bunch and were like "who is this guy and why is he asking questions"

[15:42:44] Micah John: wait, they made performance increases in portal 2 in 2008?

[15:42:58] Antonio Sergi: and some people complained

[15:43:41] Micah John: aha, when did you work at Valve?

[15:44:20] Antonio Sergi: 2008 ;p

[15:44:29] Micah John: Just that year?  Why so short? haha

[15:44:54] Antonio Sergi: i quit in 2008

[15:44:55] Antonio Sergi: as well

[15:45:01] Micah John: ah

[15:45:16] Micah John: but you said they were making massive performance increases in Portal 2..?
in 2008?

[15:45:20] Antonio Sergi: i got annoyed with the tf2 team, and i was busy with ti

[15:45:25] Antonio Sergi: end of 2009.

[15:45:31] Antonio Sergi: portal2 was released in 2010

[15:45:35] √oidy: lol "annoyed with the tf2 team"

[15:45:36] Micah John: 2011 actually

[15:45:40] √oidy: this is a story i'd love to hear

[15:45:44] Antonio Sergi: was it 2011?

[15:45:46] Micah John: me too

[15:45:49] Antonio Sergi: fuck me i'm all screwed up

[15:45:49] Antonio Sergi: hahaha
[15:45:50] Micah John: Yeah, April 2011

[15:45:51] Micah John: hahaha

[15:46:00] Antonio Sergi: it was originally supposed to be out in 2010

[15:46:00] Antonio Sergi: haha

[15:46:09] Micah John: I think it was delayed IIRC

[15:46:15] Antonio Sergi: it was deleted and re-created

[15:46:29] Antonio Sergi: the original portal2 was about 3 kids

[15:46:36] Antonio Sergi: who stumbled upon aperture

[15:46:39] Antonio Sergi: and you had a camera

[15:46:46] Antonio Sergi: and coule take pictueres of ghosts and shit

[15:46:52] Antonio Sergi: and there was no chell or glados

[15:47:09] Steve: some of the code for that version still exists in the l4d2 src ^

[15:47:14] Antonio Sergi: yep

[15:47:18] Antonio Sergi: the camera material proxy

[15:47:19] Antonio Sergi: and stuff

[15:47:22] Steve: the camera

[15:47:23] Steve: yeah

[15:47:35] Steve: could capture entitys and stuff

[15:47:41] Antonio Sergi: one of the kids was a descendent of chell if i remember correctly

[15:47:54] Antonio Sergi: the storyw as massively... ..

[15:48:00] Antonio Sergi: whoever wrote it was on drugs

[15:48:33] Steve: yeah im glad that scrapped that, would have been such a fail if portal 2 didnt have portals

[15:48:36] Antonio Sergi: it was like.. some japanese anime sht

[15:48:52] Antonio Sergi: ..... like the other version of tf2 that was completely finished

[15:48:54] Antonio Sergi: and then scrapped.
[15:49:01] Micah John: humans vs. aliens right?

[15:49:05] Antonio Sergi: the anime tf2

[15:49:08] Micah John: LOL

[15:49:10] Antonio Sergi: that was like ghost in the shell

[15:49:24] Steve: hahah it wasnt anime, well i guess kinda...

[15:49:25] Steve: lmao

[15:49:34] Micah John: but in the original portal 2 you said you could, capture entities, like freeze them?

[15:49:44] Antonio Sergi: yeah

[15:49:45] Antonio Sergi: with the camera

[15:49:49] Micah John: then go and interact?

[15:49:57] Steve: the camera would take a picture of them, then they dissapear and would be in photos in your inventory

[15:49:58] Antonio Sergi: and then there was shit like, you take a picture
[15:50:00] Antonio Sergi: and stuff would appear

[15:50:10] Antonio Sergi: that you couldn't actually see

[15:50:15] Antonio Sergi: only in the photo

[15:50:16] Steve: you could then re use them to solve stuff

[15:50:32] Micah John: F-STOP

[15:50:35] Micah John: the name makes sense

[15:50:36] Antonio Sergi: yeah

[15:50:38] Antonio Sergi: f-stop.

[15:50:58] Micah John: and this was in 2008?

[15:51:07] Antonio Sergi: yeah,

[15:51:11] Antonio Sergi: immediatelt after orange box

[15:51:26] Micah John: Oh, LITERALLY after the orange box came out and Portal was a pop culture hit

[15:51:35] Micah John: how long did they work on F-STOP?

[15:51:46] Antonio Sergi: i'm not even sure tbh

[15:51:59] Steve: if you get the making of portal 2 it tells you more about the timeline of fstop

[15:52:18] Antonio Sergi: actually i guess i quit valve in 2009

[15:52:23] Antonio Sergi: like july 2009

[15:52:25] Antonio Sergi: or something

[15:52:42] Micah John: I read the final hours of Portal 2, they mentioned F-STOP and said that they stopped working on it when they didn't get the feedback from testers that they hoped

[15:52:43] Antonio Sergi: but i wasnt really doing much between nov 2008 and july

[15:52:51] Antonio Sergi: which was kinda what led me to just drop it

[15:53:06] Micah John: you weren't in a team or anything?

[15:53:14] Antonio Sergi: no i was just working on the sdk